SoulSnake
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Post by SoulSnake on Nov 7, 2008 1:23:42 GMT 10
What are peoples thoughts of hell and do you believe it is an actual location all be it after death and perhaps a different dimemsion? If the bible suggests it actually exists and you believe in god it would be contradictory to say it doesn't right? It has always intrigued me that some faiths if not most do not believe hell exists yet the very book they worship endorses the theory it does! Any thoughts?
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Loucifer
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Post by Loucifer on Nov 7, 2008 1:35:00 GMT 10
Wow - this is a deep topic!
I have no religion myself, so it's difficult for me to accept the idea of Hell (or Heaven for that matter). I just don't buy into the whole fire and brimstone idea.
However, if there is a Hell - I'd like it to be like the one from "Little Nicky"!
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Post by devildude on Nov 7, 2008 18:31:11 GMT 10
its a good question but im not so sure either but i guess it would.
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Post by metalcherry on Nov 8, 2008 5:31:44 GMT 10
Being catholic i was brought up to believe in heaven and hell and all that stuff and i used to work myself up because my father is an athiest and i thought he would never get into heaven but - based on the dogma theory - when young, your glass is filled but as you grow up your glass gets bigger and harder to fill. I dont fully believe in heaven and hell but one can not co-exist without the other. Sadly, i believe we just rot and our souls die off. its a shame, i would like to believe in something
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Post by Loucifer on Nov 10, 2008 20:46:14 GMT 10
I dont fully believe in heaven and hell but one can not co-exist without the other. Sadly, i believe we just rot and our souls die off. its a shame, i would like to believe in something I echo that thought entirely.
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Post by midnight on Nov 11, 2008 6:51:28 GMT 10
Sadly, i believe we just rot and our souls die off. its a shame, i would like to believe in something Acually we don't. Because energy can't be destroyed he should just go back into the world to create something else.
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Post by Loucifer on Nov 11, 2008 7:40:03 GMT 10
Sadly, i believe we just rot and our souls die off. its a shame, i would like to believe in something Acually we don't. Because energy can't be destroyed he should just go back into the world to create something else. That's an interesting theory. But, can we necessarily define a soul as energy?
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Post by metalcherry on Nov 11, 2008 7:45:31 GMT 10
Wouldn't a soul be more of a form of entity than an energy?
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Post by BlindReaper on Nov 20, 2008 12:58:27 GMT 10
I was brought up as a luthern, rebeled then turned satanist, lived on the satanic bible for quite some time, now turned atheist..I mean, if there is a good holy god, then that means that there has to be a bad unholy god..i guess..but what's after death, if there isn't a heaven or hell, then what happens to your soul "if there is a soul, i mean you can also look at it like we're all just made up of flesh with a brain that lets us touch, feel, smell, and, see...just like animals, we're just a living husk" when we die will it be eternal darkness, but we have no body so it'd be like our minds trapped in a neverending void..until what?? Which kinda makes me believe in recarnation..But what happens at the rapture, all the non-believers stay on earth as the christans are taken into the arms of god..then what's hell? Earth or some firey pit. Maybe earth is actually hell, but is only considered hell after the rapture..Sorry for my brambling, I'm just expressing some thoughts..I think that this theory may be going a little to far but here it is..What if there is a heaven and all believers when dead went there..when the nonbelievers died their souls would stay with them in there grave, waiting for the end of the world "rapture" when earth converts unto hell with endless destruction..the nonbelievers rise out of there grave regenerated to face there punishment for eternaty.. well there's my two cents, you guys can rip me apart and criticize me all you want, just stating what "may" happen...lol
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Post by BlindReaper on Nov 20, 2008 13:05:40 GMT 10
Well..all in all, some dude wrote a book, called it the Holy Bible, some other dude read it, didn't like what he read, got pissed off, wrote a book and called it the Unholy Bible, which is probally how religions were born..
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Post by metalcherry on Nov 21, 2008 0:16:33 GMT 10
I think the real fear i have about death is not if there is a heaven or a hell but - as stated by BR is that maybe we have a soul and once we die, our souls live on like normal, only minus the body forever and ever. if it does, is it still confined in the body which is in a box? or does it roam free.......and now i am getting a bit too deep into this and beginning to freak myself out lol!
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Post by BlindReaper on Nov 21, 2008 6:45:58 GMT 10
I mean..it kinda makes sence right? It's kinda hard to believe that Moses lived for about 500 years and some random jew could do magic..parting of the red sea?...seriously, they probally could attract more believers if they made it more realistic. I'm actually starting to believe that when we die we sit motionless in our grave, aware of whats happening but nothing that we could do about it..It's definatly something to think deeply about.
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Post by Loucifer on Dec 1, 2008 7:22:10 GMT 10
I'm actually starting to believe that when we die we sit motionless in our grave, aware of whats happening but nothing that we could do about it..It's definatly something to think deeply about. That's an interesting thought, and reminds me of the Necroscope books by Brian Lumley. The main character, Harry Keogh, has the ability to talk to the dead - who more or less continue to exist, but not in the 'ghosty' sense. They spend their time where they died and they continue to think about the things they were good at / enjoyed during life. For instance, if a genius mathematician died then they would continue their existance by thinking of incredible equations. Then, over time, they become weaker and eventually fade away into nothingness. In the books, this is something that they fear, but - when the time comes - they ultimately accept. I suppose it's made easier for them as they only have the other dead to talk to... and Harry (the Necroscope)... and any Necromancers that may be lurking around. Anyway, I've veered a bit off-topic here, but I hope you don't mind too much! ;D
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Post by metalcherry on Dec 1, 2008 9:02:24 GMT 10
what i am trying to work out is I do believe in ghosts or a state of existance of ghosts, i think my "experiences" with the ones in my mums house (which btw i have to move back in after my landlady decided she wants to move back into her flat *humph*) that i do believe there is some presence there.
surely ghosts would have an awareness of where they are and a sort of soul - or maybe it could be like a sort of groundhog day, forever to live out their existance reliving their final moments (sure there was a movie which did this where every day at the same time they re-lived their final moments until someone interveaned - sure it was tales from the crypt!)
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Post by BlindReaper on Dec 1, 2008 14:43:50 GMT 10
I've actually heard of that book Lou, never read it though I didn't think that it would be all that great, I'm definatly reconsidering reading it though!
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